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Charismatic Concerns

We are supporters of both the expression of the gifts and leadings of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinth. 14:26) as well as the Biblical testing of these same "charismatic" activities (1 Thess. 5:17-22).  This portion of our website is dedicated to the "Charismatic" issues we were compelled by the Lord's Spirit and by our own concern to research or speak out on. When the research is our own, quotes from publications and books or tapes are carefully handled, meaning that they are not taken out of context. When the reports are done by others, we have often confirmed them in some way as being a fair enough treatment of the subject or book. We make no apologies for "sounding the alarm" in useful ways over issues and teachings that are already very public and often quite well-known.  These reports are often easily verified by anyone who wishes to look into the specifics.  

"Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as He is righteous."

1 John 3:7

Addressing the issues:

Many pages take you to other links about the subject. There are also many select outside links to articles, reports, or books not written by ourselves.

- Bob and Teri Earl



An open rebuke to Rick Joyner and Morningstar Ministries, sent July 1999 and again in August 1999, in conjunction with the European Prophetic College and with much prayer and by the leading of the Lord.  We provided ample evidence of public statements or teachings,  reproduced in full where-ever possible. Some of our investigative work was later mentioned in the April, 2001 edition of Charisma Magazine. 
Rick Joyner then gave a response to the Charisma article. (See also our full report of what occurred between Rick Joyner and Charisma magazine.)

The original intent of this section was not meant to merely showcase any sensational prophetic failure, but rather express a multitude of alarms about the character of a public ministry who sought to be an authority on the prophetic.  This work remains published as, at the very least, an instructive journey into a self-made ordeal that probably could have been avoided by Joyner himself. James 5:5: "If any of you is lacking in wisdom, ask God, who gives to all generously and ungrudgingly, and it will be given you."

Additional help for these types of issues raised:
The Gnostic heresy by William Barclay


About C. Peter Wagner's New Apostolic Reformation

This page is a bit informally written and leads to other appropriate internal pages on our website. Although our pages began to be written and published since 1999, these same concerns have been voiced by others in the years since. We have not kept up with every book or conference churned out by this organization of people, so one must keep in mind that the scope of these reports are limited to just a few years of observation.

Oct. 2006 Update: 

Authority, Accountability, and the Apostolic Movement
by Stephen Crosby

Book description: There is a new apostolic movement afoot, and it is leading many from the simplicity of the pure gospel. To be legitimate, the teaching emphasis and ministry expression of present-day apostles and prophets must reflect a correct gospel foundation:

• the person and work of Christ as its focus,
• spiritual death and resurrection as its method,
• and the indwelling Spirit as its power.

Instead, the new apostolic reformation movement, with its emphasis on apostolic authority, “spiritual covering,” loyalty, honor, submission, and government, has become the vehicle to build the philosophies and kingdoms of men.

Dr. Stephen Crosby’s third book, Authority, Accountability, and the Apostolic Movement, probes these and other authority/submission issues from a biblically disciplined, Christ-centered, New Covenant perspective. Within these pages, every believer, church leader, apostle, or prophet who may have wandered from th simplicity of the gospel can find the road to recovery.

This is the only printed book on this subject that we recommend. See my amazon review of it!

We have been told that this portion of our website has been helpful to those who have experienced 'take overs' in their churches by the teachings of these groups or their fans.


About Rick Warren. Please see our Rick Warren page.
Emerging Church:

Biblical vs. Postmodern

How to Know When the Emerging Church is Emerging In Your Church
commentary by Roger Oakland

As far as Brian McLaren in specific:
From the online book, Reinventing Jesus Christ, by Warren Smith. Read the subtitle, 
Deceived Christian Leaders, under Chapter 8 Update "The Armageddon Alternative"

The Light House Trails Research website has gathered evidence about how Rick Warren promotes the Emerging Church and Brian McLaren 
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Emerging Chuch: The Emerging Cult  a scathing warning by
Ken Silva
 

The Megashift book by Jim Rutz has been reported to be a very positive book that both documents and encourages an important paradigm-shift from our Western "spectator religion" to the more open, participatory fellowships that have been highly successful in other parts of the world. It spotlights hundreds of thousands of house-church teams around the globe who run their own show without buildings, paid pastors, or sermons.

There have been a few concerns expressed about the book and these are presented well in:

James Rutz's MegaShift
A Critical Review

by Steve Muse

See also Otis, Wagner and the Transformations Revival by prof. J. S. Malan and Ms. Louisa Coetzee.




Kingdom Theology Highly Recommended. A must read for all concerned Pentecostals!
This article is from Albert James Dager's 1986 Media Spotlight is a thorough and gracious overview of an extremist Pentecostal teaching error.  Still very useful today.

The "Latter Rain" Scripture - James 5:7-8    
by Teri Lee Earl. Tired of the Latter Rain controversy and the heretical errors of the past? This is a very thorough Bible study regarding James 5:7-8 and the scriptures and facts that are related to that scripture.

Due to numerous complaints about the Vineyard denomination over the years, we offer this outside link: 
Stop The Blight

Also, see the last letter published on our Mail To Author section.



Do you have the good sense to wonder whether radical problems 
need 'radical' change and 'radical' solutions?
  Take a journey OUT OF ORGANIZED RELIGION

Related webpages to this section:
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Apostle/Apostolic
Words, Semantics, and the 'Equippers' For Yesterday and Today, by Teri Lee Earl
contains links to other 'Apostolic'-Related Teachings or Expositories

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Spiritual Authority
general expositories about the proper use of authority

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Spiritual Abuse
Help for those who are suffering spiritual 'mis'-authority
links to an off-shoot page: cults
 

General Abuse
How 'apostate' is it for "Christians" to abuse one another?
Links for those who are suffering from abuse

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This page created/maintained by Teri Lee Earl.
For examples of mail written and answers given, please enjoy the Mail To Author section.